Comments on: Q & A: On Old Strategies and Today’s Markets http://www.curtisfaith.com/2009/10/12/qa-on-old-strategies-and-todays-markets/ A Turtle Master's Insights on the Art of the Trade Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:52:09 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rowland http://www.curtisfaith.com/2009/10/12/qa-on-old-strategies-and-todays-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Rowland Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:35:07 +0000 http://www.curtisfaith.com/?p=129#comment-31 Curtis: I loved Way of the Turtle! You make some good points about the simplicity of systems and also about filters in helping smooth systems out. It is obvious if you look at Turtles and 2nd gen Turtles that are still trading, that their numbers, while still good, are not a big as in the 70s and 80s (ie. annualized trend of returns is going down). What systems and filters are you drawn toward now that seem to highlight the inefficiencies in markets today? Also, being that things that are out of favor tend to start doing well, are you expecting a return of Turtle style trend trading in the future sometime? Curtis:
I loved Way of the Turtle! You make some good points about the simplicity of systems and also about filters in helping smooth systems out. It is obvious if you look at Turtles and 2nd gen Turtles that are still trading, that their numbers, while still good, are not a big as in the 70s and 80s (ie. annualized trend of returns is going down). What systems and filters are you drawn toward now that seem to highlight the inefficiencies in markets today? Also, being that things that are out of favor tend to start doing well, are you expecting a return of Turtle style trend trading in the future sometime?

]]> By: Anthony Garner http://www.curtisfaith.com/2009/10/12/qa-on-old-strategies-and-todays-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Anthony Garner Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:21:59 +0000 http://www.curtisfaith.com/?p=129#comment-20 What a refreshing change to see an honest discussion of this old system and of trend following in general. It is a damn difficult route - the long deep drawdowns, while certainly no worse than those you can expect to suffer in the stockmarket, make LTTF a tough path to follow. Congratulations on your new website! What a refreshing change to see an honest discussion of this old system and of trend following in general. It is a damn difficult route – the long deep drawdowns, while certainly no worse than those you can expect to suffer in the stockmarket, make LTTF a tough path to follow.

Congratulations on your new website!

]]> By: Curtis Faith http://www.curtisfaith.com/2009/10/12/qa-on-old-strategies-and-todays-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Curtis Faith Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:44:46 +0000 http://www.curtisfaith.com/?p=129#comment-19 In looking at the way their respective returns have diverged it is pretty clear that William Eckhardt is using some thing radically different and that Jerry Parker is using a mix of long-term trend-following approaches. I doubt either one of them is using the Turtle System as we traded it for any of their funds. Richard Dennis only developed the Turtle System shortly before the Turtle program began. They had several other systems they considered teaching us at the time. Rich made most of his early money scalping in the pits and then he later started position trading. He was a fairly discretionary trader even at the time of the Turtle program. He definitely did not make his early money using the Turtle System or anything like it. In looking at the way their respective returns have diverged it is pretty clear that William Eckhardt is using some thing radically different and that Jerry Parker is using a mix of long-term trend-following approaches. I doubt either one of them is using the Turtle System as we traded it for any of their funds.

Richard Dennis only developed the Turtle System shortly before the Turtle program began. They had several other systems they considered teaching us at the time.

Rich made most of his early money scalping in the pits and then he later started position trading. He was a fairly discretionary trader even at the time of the Turtle program. He definitely did not make his early money using the Turtle System or anything like it.

]]> By: Gaia http://www.curtisfaith.com/2009/10/12/qa-on-old-strategies-and-todays-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Gaia Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:26:54 +0000 http://www.curtisfaith.com/?p=129#comment-18 Just curious 1. if the turtle don't effective anymore is William Eckhart and Jerry Parker still use turtle trading system ? 2. Is turtle system need quite amount money that mean richard dennis don't use turtle system when he start trading with 5000 $ ? Regards, Just curious
1. if the turtle don’t effective anymore is William Eckhart and Jerry Parker still use turtle trading system ?
2. Is turtle system need quite amount money that mean richard dennis don’t use turtle system when he start trading with 5000 $ ?

Regards,

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